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RoyNesbitt
I took pictures a couple of months ago at a fashion and although they arent great pics they are `ok`. A lot of the models are happy with the results and in turn have asked for them to be used which i have given permission for as they have my watermark on. One person though has used one of the pics for a separate profile and cropped the image so my watermark has been removed. Where do i stand regarding this as i know i own the rights to it but what can i actually do??
RoyNesbitt , Photographer  posted on 22/11/2011 00:47:33   Posted 35 times

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canonlad
When you gave her the image you gave her permission to use the image for self promotion as well, I presume. Did you state that the image could not be altered in any way, is this in writing. Did any model sign a contract of any kind or was it just verbal.
In cases like this it is best not to assume anything and get everything in writing. 
canonlad , Photographer  posted on 23/11/2011 05:04:32   Posted 5 times

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RoyNesbitt
I never gave her the image to use. She's just took it. She never asked to use it and I never gave permission for it to be altered. As for written confirmation I was under the impression that the photographer owned the rights. End of.
RoyNesbitt , Photographer  posted on 23/11/2011 07:38:24   Posted 35 times

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canonlad
"A lot of the models are happy with the results and in turn have asked for them to be used which I have given permission for as they have my watermark on."
This is a direct quote from your original post. You did give permission for them to be used as self promotion and one person has cropped the image to exclude your watermark.
At least your image is out there and if anyone wants to use you they can find you through this model. So, I cannot see you problem.
canonlad , Photographer  posted on 23/11/2011 10:45:59   Posted 5 times

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RoyNesbitt
First of all shes not a model that was at the show. She never asked where as all the others have and lastly how would ppl know i took it if shes took the watermark off.
RoyNesbitt , Photographer  posted on 23/11/2011 12:40:28   Posted 35 times

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canonlad
Please do not get abusive towards me as I am only trying to help.
You did not give the whole story when you first posted. Where did the model get the image from if not at the shoot. also, we have both wasted more time than it is worth talking about this subject.
canonlad , Photographer  posted on 23/11/2011 12:59:41   Posted 5 times

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RoyNesbitt
How is what i have said in any way or form abusive. Secondly for the sake of repeating myself the person who `stole` my picture IS NOT a model. I didnt say she was in my original post and i have said that in my last post also. If you have wasted too much time on this then do not reply. Easy as that as the replies you have given havent really give me any advice anyway.
RoyNesbitt , Photographer  posted on 23/11/2011 16:23:52   Posted 35 times

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mickgibbons
hi mate


firstly she has no right taking the image from your website however you might not be able to do anything about it as well. it all depends on the location, contracts, model release etc.

email me the image at (np edit, no email sin public forum please)

i will then ask you questions on it and try and help you out


mick
mickgibbons , Photographer  posted on 23/11/2011 19:16:09   Posted 15 times

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canonlad
Count me out if this conversation, the poster has far too an aggressive attitude for me.
canonlad , Photographer  posted on 24/11/2011 05:40:33   Posted 5 times

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RoyNesbitt
Not entirely sure where your seeing this aggression but hey ho.

Mick... out of curiosity....why do you need to see the image?
RoyNesbitt , Photographer  posted on 24/11/2011 16:26:26   Posted 35 times

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mickgibbons
mainly because its impossible to say who is right or wrong. just send a link



you send it was a fashion show, then you said she was not a model at the show? i am lost.



if it was taken without her knowing and not in a public place then you are in the wrong, is there a model release. there are some many issues to copyright its impossible to give you the right answer without knowing what you are taking about



mick
mickgibbons , Photographer  posted on 24/11/2011 20:54:18   Posted 15 times

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RoyNesbitt
She was a singer at the show. She never modelled. Everyone at the show (including her)knew i was there as i was with another two photographers. All the models who wanted to show the pics on there profiles asked me first and never cropped it. She never asked and also cropped the pic. No model release forms were issued or signed. I have since got in touch with the site that has the pic on and they haven apologised (although its not there fault) and have said they would remove it immediately.
RoyNesbitt , Photographer  posted on 24/11/2011 22:34:00   Posted 35 times

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GCImages
They should not have used your picture without your permission.  That's a given but unless you are into photography, many people just don't get the copyright/intellectual property concept.  Also, as it has been posted to the 'public domain' is it a free for all.....?  It shouldn't be but copying and tagging images on line is sooo prolific few will understand what the problem is.   If the image is linked rather than down-loaded and re-posted technically (I believe) no breach of copyright has taken place....however, I think you have 3 choices, realistically.....

a.  Ask for the image to be removed.  This is a bit pointless unless the image portrays you in a bad light (doubtful, as you wouldn't have put it on your website..)

b.  Ask them to replace the image with the original watermarked image.

c.  Ask them to credit the image to your website.

Asking for compensation etc is unlikely to work.  The above are reasonable requests.  Not sure what else you would want/need to do.

Glenn  
GCImages , Photographer  posted on 25/11/2011 00:30:57   Posted 707 times

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