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Topic | edited my 2 unedited photos? please.
miron
I find them very boring and just wondered if anyone can do something fancy on photoshop to make them have abit more to them.
Feel free to use them and send me the results.

I'll be amazed if someone does this Member Image
miron , Model  posted on 27/10/2009 22:20:13   Posted 26 times

Located:ulverston,Cumbria, UK
Member Since: 07/10/2009
       
Keiran Bingle
Hi Miron,

the images that you have posted are very small when viewed, if someone had the good nature to try what your asking, they would probably need the original version sent to them, not a right click and "save as" job.

Keiran.

Keiran Bingle , Photographer  posted on 27/10/2009 22:28:44   Posted 985 times

Located:Stroud, Gloucestershire, Pershore Worcestershire,Worcestershire, UK
Member Since: 27/02/2009
       
petesky
I'l have a go.I like a challenge and i LOVE photoshop!!! what exactly did you have in mind?just enhancing and retouching or like adding different background and stuff?

Also do i just save the images from your profile page?The original files would be better but i don't think we're allowed to add email addresses in pm's?how can i get them,anyone know a way around it?


pete.
petesky , Photographer  posted on 27/10/2009 22:33:27   Posted 101 times

Located:portsmouth,Hampshire, UK
Member Since: 30/09/2009
       
miron
I should be getting the originals this week (but it did take alot longer than I thought just to get these)

If you could add a background I would be very gratefull of that.
To have something differant about my photos would be amazing :)
 
Thank you Member Image
miron , Model  posted on 27/10/2009 23:23:14   Posted 26 times

Located:ulverston,Cumbria, UK
Member Since: 07/10/2009
       
landonroad
Member Image

Here is a quick 5 minute play around.  Hard to do much more as it's only a tiny file!
Personally tho it's a plain image and you have far better ones already in your portfolio - I would just drop these images.

Roy, Landon Road Photographers
landonroad , Photographer  posted on 24/11/2009 18:52:05   Posted 38 times

Located:Newcastle-Under-Lyme,Staffordshire, UK
Member Since: 10/06/2009
       
AMPhotographique
Copyright.. anyone???
AMPhotographique , Photographer  posted on 24/11/2009 21:31:54   Posted 156 times

Located:DONCASTER,South Yorkshire, UK
Member Since: 17/10/2008
       
landonroad
Sorry peeps, I put in my portfolio with regrads to this image that my only imput was re-touching, and that I bare no ownership or responsibility for the photo.  I just forgot to add it to this forum post as well.
landonroad , Photographer  posted on 24/11/2009 21:48:54   Posted 38 times

Located:Newcastle-Under-Lyme,Staffordshire, UK
Member Since: 10/06/2009
       
AMPhotographique

Quoting post from landonroad
Sorry peeps, I put in my portfolio with regrads to this image that my only imput was re-touching, and that I bare no ownership or responsibility for the photo.  I just forgot to add it to this forum post as well.


But you're missing the point....

YOU'RE not the copyright holder... and I doubt you have his/her permission.

Therefore you shouldn't have done any editing. period.
AMPhotographique , Photographer  posted on 24/11/2009 21:51:18   Posted 156 times

Located:DONCASTER,South Yorkshire, UK
Member Since: 17/10/2008
       
landonroad
I enough of the copyright, but must admit I should of checked who owned the rights to this image, but if the model is freely stating 'feel free to use them...' that she is only doing so because she herself owns the rights.

I will gladly remove the post if MIRON doesn't have the rights to this image, but did take on  the post that she was releasing it under a Creative Commons license.
landonroad , Photographer  posted on 24/11/2009 22:24:51   Posted 38 times

Located:Newcastle-Under-Lyme,Staffordshire, UK
Member Since: 10/06/2009
       
miron
I do have full rights to this image.
Use them as you want :)
miron , Model  posted on 24/11/2009 23:04:24   Posted 26 times

Located:ulverston,Cumbria, UK
Member Since: 07/10/2009
       
landonroad
I'm glad of that, I'm assuming anyone wanting to be a model is swiftly warned about the traps and pitfalls around ownership, and that you wouldn't of risked a post with that much creative freedom if it fell back on yourself.

Back to the edit, it's only simple, but I've lighted you up, given you a plain/graident background, then brightened up the clothes with a quick colour change...like I said a quick 5 minute play.

I still stick to my opinion that this is a very weak pose/shot and you have done so much better!
landonroad , Photographer  posted on 24/11/2009 23:22:56   Posted 38 times

Located:Newcastle-Under-Lyme,Staffordshire, UK
Member Since: 10/06/2009
       
SmilesPhoto

Quoting post from miron
I do have full rights to this image.
Use them as you want :)


Unfortunately, anyone re-touching will require sight of written authority from the copyright owner (photographer) to safeguard themselves. Sometimes these things seem trivial but it's better safe than sorry I guess.

WEBSITE CREATION & DESIGN FROM £25. YES IT'S CHEAP - MONEY DOESN'T BRING ME HAPPINESS! www.smilesphoto.co.uk

SmilesPhoto , Photographer  posted on 25/11/2009 10:08:10   Posted 313 times

Located:UK,Kent, UK
Member Since: 27/03/2009
       
SwitchPhotography
If there was anything to work with then I could have been tempted to mess around... however I don't think the problem with these images lies with how they were taken and lit but more what the model in them is actually doing.

They are lifeless because the model is not injecting any life into them. There are countless images on a plain background that are fantastic because the model, photographer and viewer all have a connection.




Switch Photography Studio
http://www.switchphotographystudio.co.uk

SwitchPhotography , Studio  posted on 25/11/2009 10:28:15   Posted 353 times

Located:Arundel,West Sussex, UK
Member Since: 08/10/2008
       
arriflex
Is there something wrong with my settings? because I can't see the image that has been retouched.  all I can see is the words Member Image.
arriflex , Photographer  posted on 27/12/2009 17:32:03   Posted 275 times

Located:South Benfleet,Essex, UK
Member Since: 23/12/2009
       
nikonuser
i cannot see it either, perhaps its been deleted from the server? Member Image   or could it be the copyright prevents us from veiwing it Member Image perhaps we are being censored Member Image   or could it be plain Member Image
nikonuser , Photographer  posted on 27/12/2009 21:23:12   Posted 225 times

Located:Middlesbrough & Rugby i commute!,Warwickshire, UK
Member Since: 20/12/2009
       
RobM

Quoting post from miron
I do have full rights to this image.
Use them as you want :)


So you paid the photographer for the shoot and for the copyright??

I personally never give copyright away from a shoot and certainly never from any TF shoots I might do, and I wouldn't allow you to edit the images without my permission if they were my photographs

I would suggest you check with the photographer

Rob M


Remember: - If it ain't fun, it ain't worth doing

RobM , Photographer  posted on 28/12/2009 10:07:53   Posted 572 times

Located:Leicester,Leicestershire, UK
Member Since: 24/10/2008
       
GaryWallace
I have, on a number of occasions, given models unedited hi-res jpegs with full permission to do whatever they like with them as long as I am not credited. Occasionally they particularly want pictures from a TF* set that I simply do not like myself. Its easier and better all round if I simply say 'have the pics and do what you like with them'.

The majority of TF* shoots I did last year were simply to practice lighting, the images have no commercial value whatsoever to me and adopting a dog in a manger attitude, simply because I can, doesnt really sit within my own moral framework.

If the OP has been given images under a similar arrangement to that which I occasionally pratice myself - well, good luck to her.

I would say that less than 1% of the images posted on internet sites like this have no commercial value at all. Its often slightly absurd how jealously copyright is guarded on images that are of no use to anyone but the model featured in them.
GaryWallace , Photographer  posted on 28/12/2009 10:22:53   Posted 242 times

Located:bournemouth,Dorset, UK
Member Since: 17/01/2009
       
SmilesPhoto
Personally, I'm always happy for the model to use the images as they wish. My main stipulation is that they don't alter them without permission. I don't have an issue with someone not liking my work - I do if it's because a third party has been cropping it or messing about with it in photoshop!

Rich.

Professional photographer & web designer in a past life

SmilesPhoto , Photographer  posted on 28/12/2009 10:37:58   Posted 313 times

Located:UK,Kent, UK
Member Since: 27/03/2009
       
danjpope

Quoting post from GaryWallace
I have, on a number of occasions, given models unedited hi-res jpegs with full permission to do whatever they like with them as long as I am not credited. Occasionally they particularly want pictures from a TF* set that I simply do not like myself. Its easier and better all round if I simply say 'have the pics and do what you like with them'.

The majority of TF* shoots I did last year were simply to practice lighting, the images have no commercial value whatsoever to me and adopting a dog in a manger attitude, simply because I can, doesnt really sit within my own moral framework.

If the OP has been given images under a similar arrangement to that which I occasionally pratice myself - well, good luck to her.

I would say that less than 1% of the images posted on internet sites like this have no commercial value at all. Its often slightly absurd how jealously copyright is guarded on images that are of no use to anyone but the model featured in them.


Plus 1 from me.


danjpope , Photographer  posted on 28/12/2009 10:59:18   Posted 146 times

Located:London,London, UK
Member Since: 20/09/2009
       
landonroad
This copyright stuff is messed up...and thats coming from a photographer!

True to form in the simplist manner is as soon as you've pressed the button on your camera, the stored image is copyrigted to yourself, and that you can without permission edit a picture as long as it's only really part used and can't make out the original as the original...
...it's all the grey stuff inbetween thats out of control!

Now I've seen them on top gear review a merc CLK 3,000,000 or whatever model they've reached, but it's been altered by a small company with a mechanic and a computer...not always better, but shows you what other people are capable of and how they want this to be represented...

I might edit a photo in such a manner that a model might not like or know someone who could do a much better job (I'm not perfect and not the best), should I denie them this chance to get something of them looking the way they wanted it to look...tell me honestly, how many photographers would listen to their models opinions after and go back and alter as desired - not many of you - you believe your work is done.

so far i've given models I've worked with the right to edit them photos...I'm representing my work as I feel is my best, the model wants to represent herself at her best, and digital re-touchers want to show what they have to offer (as ever re-toucher got pick up and learn photography before they get a break!)

But to end on, photographers do have more of a job to do, as when the model goes home the photographer is only just starting, but even tho we own copyright of the image, just remember as it's of someone else, they have the right not to have their image shown...who's holding all the cards - NO ONE! so maybe a more relaxed and sharing community needs to be developed!

Roy. 
landonroad , Photographer  posted on 28/12/2009 17:29:52   Posted 38 times

Located:Newcastle-Under-Lyme,Staffordshire, UK
Member Since: 10/06/2009
       
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