I've been asked by quite a few photographers what my rates are, as I'm quite new to this I havent worked it out yet. See my photos what do you think?

Without being rude, nothing yet.  Your self pics (of which only your avatar remains) had an edge and showed real potential so it won't take much but it really depends on where you want your modelling to go.  Rates generally vary, but as a guide some of the best inter****s commission £30ish per hour working to art nude.  The glamour market is about the same and I can't comment on the higher level stuff.  If you are being offered way more than that, tread very carefully!

Bridging that gap from wanting to have some good pictures to getting regular paid work will take a lot of effort, organisation and travel (on your part) but as it stands your portfolio will not generate sufficient interest.  I can point out some recent examples of models who have succeeded in making this transition (Amie Dodgeson springs to mind) and your look is not too dissimilar.  You have an interesting face and some curves so there is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be able to get something out of modelling.  Good luck with where it takes you.

GCImages , Photographer  posted on 01/05/2010 12:58:45   Posted 663 times

Located:Gloucestershire,Hampshire, UK
Member Since: 03/10/2009

Back to Top Withoutbeing rude, nothing yet.  Your self pics (of which only your avatarremains) had an edge and showed real potential so it won't take muchbut it really depends on where you want your modelling to go.  Ratesgenerally vary, but as a guide some of the best inter****s commission£30ish per hour working to art nude.  The glamour market is about thesame and I can't comment on the higher level stuff.  If you are beingoffered way more than that, tread very carefully!

Bridging thatgap from wanting to have some good pictures to getting regular paidwork will take a lot of effort, organisation and travel (on your part)but as it stands your portfolio will not generate sufficient interest. I can point out some recent examples of models who have succeeded inmaking this transition (Amie Dodgeson springs to mind) and your look isnot too dissimilar.  You have an interesting face and some curves sothere is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be able to getsomething out of modelling.  Good luck with where it takes you.

Actually I think you were saying that to be rude, either that or not actually thinking about the question asked. As If someone wants to pay me to model they obviously think I'm worth it so if they ask for rates Im not really going to say 'oh yh I'm free', I accept that I do need TFP/TFCD work as a new model for experience and a good portfolio. Which my profile clearly states I work for TFP or pay so its put upto the photographer's shoot offer.

But   did you really think my own self-taken pictures were better??? but then I guess everyone has different ideas of what looks good personally I really love some of yours and think they are really professional and beautiful looking(monilicious and a few of your nudes) whereas your avatar and 'gabbimarie' to me lets you down and are very amateur looking.

I'm actually just really looking to model mainly for a hobby right now I find that I get too many offers sometimes as I prefer no more than 2 shoots a week.

I do apologise, but I was not intending to be rude so I am very sorry if it came across that way.

In a nutshell, yes your previous port was better and captured more of an interest than it does at the moment.  I think though that I did answer your question:  the best commission around £30 an hour so make your pitch and the photographer will either pay or not.

Thanks for the critique, noted.  I'll summize you won't be wanting to work with me!

Regards,

Glenn

GCImages , Photographer  posted on 01/05/2010 22:01:48   Posted 663 times

Located:Gloucestershire,Hampshire, UK
Member Since: 03/10/2009

Quoting post from Aavrielle
Back to Top Withoutbeing rude, nothing yet.  Your self pics (of which only your avatarremains) had an edge and showed real potential so it won't take muchbut it really depends on where you want your modelling to go.  Ratesgenerally vary, but as a guide some of the best inter****s commission£30ish per hour working to art nude.  The glamour market is about thesame and I can't comment on the higher level stuff.  If you are beingoffered way more than that, tread very carefully!

Bridging thatgap from wanting to have some good pictures to getting regular paidwork will take a lot of effort, organisation and travel (on your part)but as it stands your portfolio will not generate sufficient interest. I can point out some recent examples of models who have succeeded inmaking this transition (Amie Dodgeson springs to mind) and your look isnot too dissimilar.  You have an interesting face and some curves sothere is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be able to getsomething out of modelling.  Good luck with where it takes you.

Actually I think you were saying that to be rude, either that or not actually thinking about the question asked. As If someone wants to pay me to model they obviously think I'm worth it so if they ask for rates Im not really going to say 'oh yh I'm free', I accept that I do need TFP/TFCD work as a new model for experience and a good portfolio. Which my profile clearly states I work for TFP or pay so its put upto the photographer's shoot offer.

But   did you really think my own self-taken pictures were better??? but then I guess everyone has different ideas of what looks good personally I really love some of yours and think they are really professional and beautiful looking(monilicious and a few of your nudes) whereas your avatar and 'gabbimarie' to me lets you down and are very amateur looking.

I'm actually just really looking to model mainly for a hobby right now I find that I get too many offers sometimes as I prefer no more than 2 shoots a week.

Having worked with Glenn on a few occasions i think i know him well enough to know he didn't intend to offend.

I probably would have advised the same thing. Some photographers, if they pay you, will expect you to pose undirected yet still take direction well, offer a range of facial expressions and have a fashion wardrobe with a range of options. Most new start models cannot do this, it comes with practice, namely TFCD. This is why most new models do not do paid work until they have that bit of experience.

I assume most models don't even get paid offers until they have a varied portfolio. You obviously did, so you caught a photographers eye!

Rates vary on level and experience. Find out how long he wants to book you for and offer it as a package. If you are requesting travel as well include this in the package price, if the photographer is relatively local do not ask for travel.
E.g fashion - lingerie £40 for 2 hours, £70 for 4 hours.
OR fashion - art nude £60 for 2 hours, £100 for 4 hours.

Some models will have higher rates but they also have that extra experience, so set your rates at what you think will work to your advantage. In otherwords he might like your look but think your rates are too high for your level/experience.

Make sure everything is agreed prior to the shoot. If he has paid you he can do whatever he wanted with the images, so only work to what you are comfortable with. Make sure you check his references for your safety. If you want to take a chaperone, let him know. Is it full paid or part paid (full pay is where you get your fee and part paid is where they offer a portion of your fee and a couple of images from the shoot).

Just my 2p but just because one or a couple of photographers have offered you paid work, i would recommend you didn't look for paid work exclusively afterwards but tried to get that varied portfolio to appeal to more photographers later.

Best of luck!

To be fair, you need to look realistically at the situation.

You obviously have potential, but you admit you haven't had enough experience yet to find your USP, and build you confidence up in the process.

If someone asks your rates, and you suggest top dollar, you had better be able to deliver. Because if you don't the whole thing will backfire against you, and thanks to the 'net' it IS a small world. Believe it or not photographers do email each other and discuss models from time to time.

However, on the other hand if you charge a nominal amount, and then exceed expectations, it will work the opposite way in your favour.

The models who succeed are the ones who recognize there is no quick way to the top. It takes time and patience, networking and working hard to learn your craft.

Approximately £250 a day is the going rate for art nude, but I would only pay that for the best there is currently, people like Ivetan, Monica and Maria. I know whatever happens I will get superb results and they are guaranteed to deliver and be professional about it.

As a beginner I suggest, as advised above, you make your limits clear, make your rates affordable and help the photographers build their skills and you build yours. That's the ideal relationship, until one (or both) of you can consistently hit the mark.

Perhaps just enough to cover your costs and help each other out at this stage would be my advice.

Hope it works out for you.

thanks for all my answers everyone!!!
i think that i will keep my rates low about 10-15ph for any paid shoot offers as i can pose with and without direction and everyone Ive worked with so far are shocked at that since i have so little experience and yes to someone who mentioned i do have 3 bursting wardrobes of 'alternative' clothes and a fair amount of mainstream fashion also.

Rates are a very good point I have been asked for as little as £20 an hour for glamour/nude upto £75 I have never paid more then this. By the way the girl that asked for £20 an hour I gave her£30and a CDof the shoot. If a tog really wants to photograph you they will pay. I would say an average of £50 an hour for nude is about right.

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tanzanite1 , Model  posted on 05/06/2010 08:11:08   Posted 57 times

Located:Chesterfield,Derbyshire, UK
Member Since: 24/01/2010

Quoting post from Aavrielle
I've been asked by quite a few photographers what my rates are, as I'm quite new to this I havent worked it out yet. See my photos what do you think?

£10-15ph will keep you in the game as you develop your skills and style and it would give you the scope to ask for a few images from the shoot without causing too much offence (provided you ask at the time you're negotiating a shoot and not after it has taken place.



Personally, I am not keen on models with sliding scales as I don't feel comfortable with the concept that the photographer needs to pay more, the more skin is on show but I recognise I am in a minority on that one.





The idea that £50ph for art nude is an average seems a bit wide of the mark as and would expect that a poll would show that, for the vast majority of models on sites like this, would be nearer £25-30.





Jeremy

Quoting post from tanzanite1

Better put my prices up then

Not until after the 7th July you don't

You mean we should actually get money!!!!! What a cool idea I knew I was doing something wrong DOH!

Its only life.

RedDove , Model  posted on 05/06/2010 15:13:21   Posted 493 times

Located:Chippenham,Wiltshire, UK
Member Since: 27/07/2009